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Chu Jian, founder of central control group: the operating system is the soul of manufacturing industry

▲ Chu Jian, founder of central control group, as the founder of central control group, is also a well-known scientist in the field of domestic industrial automation. Chu Jian, former vice president of Zhejiang University, has been committed to enterprise development since 2017 and rarely appears in public. Recently, the daily economy (hereinafter referred to as NBD) seized the opportunity to conduct an exclusive interview at an event

Chu Jian founded zhongkong science and Technology Group in 1993, breaking through the monopoly situation of foreign-funded enterprises in the field of industrial automation, and being concerned by the outside world

it is not just good equipment that can be called intelligent

nbd: as one of the representatives of domestic automation and information technology enterprises, what are the main development directions of central control group at present

Chu Jian: at present, central control has two sectors: one is industrial automation, which is mainly aimed at the process industry; Another is to become a smart city, including urban rail transit, road signal control, tap water and sewage treatment and tourism. BASF is greatly expanding the scope of research and development in the Asia Pacific region, data monitoring. We manage and control from basic information perception, which is our smart city business

in addition, industrial automation is currently mainly aimed at process industry enterprises, and a large number of Chinese enterprises first need to solve the problem of 3.0. In fact, many enterprises are still at the level of 2.0. Many relatively backward enterprises still manually open valves, look at instruments, and look at temperature and pressure on site. If they do not observe carefully and control carefully, accidents may occur

Jinan assaying universal material testing machine, pressure testing machine, bending resistance testing machine, etc. are the main instruments and equipment for the quality inspection of building materials

for many enterprises, it may have felt that automation is needed and there is no need to be on site, so it may have seen so many operating desks in our central control room, and the computer displays all the on-site data, which we call industrial 3.0 has been achieved. So industry 4.0 is actually how to turn our original functions into intelligence

this is not because your device is good. For example, your camera has tens of millions of pixels. Suppose you install it back to the function before 2007, it is still a function. What is missing? What is missing is the soul. What is missing is this operating system

nbd: you mentioned that the operating system is the soul of the manufacturing industry. Now we are vigorously promoting intelligent manufacturing. What stage do you think the domestic intelligent manufacturing has reached, and what trend will industrial interconnection promote intelligent manufacturing

Chu Jian: it can't be said that we have made great achievements. It's still just starting. This is a future

first of all, the definition of intelligent manufacturing itself is not very accurate, or there is no standard and universally recognized (definition). Then it can be understood that when you add this, you think it is intelligent, and when he adds that, it is intelligent. But it's not, but from the perspective of mobile Internet, why we call it smart is not because of itself, but because there are so many apps

if there is no app, no android store, no apple store, you are not smart. If you can't install this, according to today's (daily scene), if you don't play, do you feel very depressed? Your circle of friends is gone. But it does not mean that it is intelligent in itself, nor does it have any intelligence in itself. However, because there are a large number of applications there, it can provide services according to the consumption of different people. You may like to play games, he may like to go to Taobao, and everyone may be different, but they get what they need

so it is the same for different enterprises. The needs of enterprises producing notebooks and tea cups are not exactly the same. So personalized apps are very important. Of course, there may be thousands of tea cups (enterprises) in China, and even tens of thousands of notebooks. In this segment, it needs special applications. So only when you solve these applications can you call it intelligent manufacturing

name is not important, but low cost and high quality

nbd: how to better promote industrial interconnection

Chu Jian: it depends on everyone's efforts. So I can only mention that, first of all, how to convert industry 2.0 to 3.0, no matter what industry you are in, if you operate it manually, it can only depend entirely on the level of people. From the first industrial revolution, the second industrial revolution, the third industrial revolution to the present fourth industrial revolution, in the past few times (Industrial Revolution), we believe that machines have replaced human muscles, and machines can help you with things you can't move. But the next step is to let machines replace human brains, which is called intelligence

of course, everyone's brain is different. I will turn everyone's good brain, that is, its industrial knowledge, into software. We turn the skills in production into software and knowledge, and apply this knowledge in a large amount, rather than staying in your own enterprise or your application

nbd: you mentioned this industrial operating system. For industrial enterprises with industrial 3.0 process, after application, its basic production process can be built and changed without improving the full-scale assessment of materials, performance evaluation in service environment, and the use of demonstration lines and other supporting conditions

Chu Jian: you asked a very good question. I think it doesn't matter what it is called. What matters is whether you can produce very good products at a very low cost. If you can do it, whether you call it intelligent manufacturing or not, it doesn't matter whether you use any technology or not. There is nothing wrong with zero emissions and low energy consumption, but it is certainly impossible to do this by just saying it

therefore, it is impossible for a large number of enterprises to change all equipment, because changing equipment and technology is a huge investment for a process industry enterprise. A large petrochemical (enterprise) may need to invest tens of billions, unlike the production of a notebook, it may invest hundreds of thousands. So in this case, we hope to help him improve the existing equipment and technology, which is our first task

nbd: a few years ago, it was rumored that there were brain drain and other problems in central control group. What is the current development stage and team building of central control

Chu Jian: the turnover rate of central control should be said to be normal. The number of important positions has basically not changed much, but is still very stable, which makes me feel very good. Of course, those who leave the company have their pursuit, because what we are doing involves the industrial security of the country

since Iran's nuclear facilities were attacked by a virus called earthquake in 2010, more than 2000 uranium enrichment centrifuges have been scrapped, which has a great impact. The virus actually manipulated Siemens' control system PC S7. We soon did experiments to verify the yield strength of materials. This system is not vulnerable to attack. Automatic control itself is an important infrastructure, important industry, and even important equipment involving all countries

control system is the brain of all industrial fields, including weapons and equipment. Without control system, you can't command everything. So our job is to make our enterprises use our things as much as possible

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